i was curious if anyone had any input on the newer timmies. alias, ripper, or any of the alias team guns. such as russian legion, naughty god.... i'm looking at getting a timmy, but i haven't heard too much about them from people that aren't sponsored.
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Re: Timmy
Wed, October 19, 2005 - 2:36 PMIs it the name your after? What do you want in a marker? Accuracy? Air effiency? Speed? -
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Re: Timmy
Wed, October 19, 2005 - 6:03 PMi would take advice on the name, as well as the qualities that you mentioned. -
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Re: Timmy
Thu, October 20, 2005 - 2:22 PMWhat kind of game are you going to play? Rec? Speedball? Just go out and shoot in the mountains?
What's your price range? -
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Re: Timmy
Thu, October 20, 2005 - 7:46 PMi play ball in any form that i can i love the game. my passion is speedball. in speedball i usually play mid to front, but on occation i do play back.
the max i can speed is about a grand plus or minus. -
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Re: Timmy
Thu, October 27, 2005 - 2:02 PMlook into the shocker.. its bad ass.. rips just like a timmy and well its a smartparts gun.. lol -
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Re: Timmy
Fri, October 28, 2005 - 12:24 PMIf you got the money to spend, do look into the Smart Parts Shocker. Base model has gone for as low as $599 on eBay.
My team all shoots Shockers. One of us shoots an Ion.
We have 3 backups for our 6 man team - 1 shocker, 1 nasty impulse and 1 ion.
The ones that shoot shockers (including myself) can't see ourselves using any other marker right now. ANd yes, there are tons of nice markers coming out like the DM6. -
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Re: Timmy
Sat, October 29, 2005 - 11:06 AMi love the size and feel of a shocker. what i'm concerned about is how are they on air? with and with out the maxflo system. -
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Re: Timmy
Mon, November 7, 2005 - 5:49 AMnot bad.. but obviously the maxflo system is the way to go.. you playin at a field.. if so .. dont worry bout air.. lol . they fill them there -
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Re: Timmy
Mon, November 7, 2005 - 6:51 PMusually i play at a field but i'm still curious how they are on air. -
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Re: Timmy
Tue, November 8, 2005 - 2:07 PMno bad if you have the dwell and r.o.f. setup right.. but thats pretty much with any marker -
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Re: Timmy
Tue, November 8, 2005 - 4:55 PMAre you concerned about the Shocker's air because you aren't around where you can fill it?
It's an air hog... but where we play its all day air for like 5 bucks.
If you're doing woods ball, yeah, its a problem getting off more than 1000 balls per tank if its 68-cu / 4500.
Chart: www.zdspb.com/tech/misc/r...pertank.html -
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Re: Timmy
Tue, November 8, 2005 - 8:33 PMgenerally i'm around a compressor, but i want to make sure that i have enough air to get through a game. if i'm playing back i throw a lot of paint. i just want to make sure it's something that will work for me. the gas usage is an issue for me any ways.
i'm thinking that my next gun will be on of the new timmys or an alias. -
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Re: Timmy
Thu, November 10, 2005 - 9:56 AMIf you're playing back, how many pods are you going to go through in a game? You'll get 1000+ off of the tank I mentioned which is definately enough for 5 pods and a hopper. -
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Re: Timmy
Thu, November 17, 2005 - 11:42 AMShockers and Velocity: Some may experience FSDO. First Shot Drop Off. But that's easily remedied with a better, faster, more efficient board. A Dynasty Board maybe. I've never experienced it with the new (what they call NERVE board). Other than that, with a quality tank that has decent recharge rate and even with the stock vertical reg, no velocity drop. Extremely consistent. Add a HE (High Efficency) bolt and you got yourself a top of the line marker. But of course you don't need all that. A stock shocker is just as pro as any shocker with ups. Ultimately its the player and not the marker.
I'm in the market for a phantom pump as we speak. I think I can get one for under 200 bucks (stock pump). -
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Re: Timmy
Thu, November 17, 2005 - 5:43 PMthanks for the information. any mid to high end markers that you would suggest just staying away from? -
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Re: Timmy
Fri, November 18, 2005 - 11:25 AMTimmy's. :) Tend to be heavy.
I do like WGP's Karnivor. THey should be a little cheaper now adays.
A good cheaper with high end functionality would be the ION. Tons of people are showing up with this marker now. Why spend 1000 when an ION costs 300 with capable features. -
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Re: Timmy
Fri, November 18, 2005 - 5:05 PMthe alias that i held is lighter than my freestyle.
i also like the karnivors.
i really like the feel of the ion. that is the other marker i'm considering. -
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Re: Timmy
Wed, November 23, 2005 - 1:17 PMi like timmy's in general.. they're fast.. a bit complicated
check out the marker specific accessories for the ion at
www.pbreview.com
you can take that $300 gun and make it look like a shocker.. its slick they have all metal bodies .. all kinds of stuff for it..
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Re: Timmy
Wed, December 7, 2005 - 2:29 PMConsidering cost, the Ion is a steal! Fast marker, you can change the styles - its a great gun! -
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Re: Timmy
Wed, December 7, 2005 - 6:19 PMfor what you get for what you pay there is no comparison with a ion. i just like a double stacked tube body style like a cocker or a timmie. -
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Re: Timmy
Thu, December 29, 2005 - 5:53 PMmakes you feel like you got more in your hand yes.. but remember the lower profile of the gun makes it less to shoot. -
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Re: Timmy
Thu, December 29, 2005 - 7:29 PMthat is a good point, it's a comfort issue. i feel like i have to lean down and into an ion. i'ld have to feel it out more to see if i could get use to it.
i assume that when you say less to shoot you mean a smaller target? -
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Re: Timmy
Thu, December 29, 2005 - 9:50 PMWant a smaller target get a Shocker. -
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Re: Timmy
Sun, January 1, 2006 - 11:14 PMyeah smaller target.. lol.. yes shocker is probibly one of the lowest profile.. but the ion is small.. great gun for snap shooters too.. im still debating to adding the shocker to my collection.. that or a nerve.. but im smart parts all the way -
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Re: Timmy
Mon, January 2, 2006 - 7:12 AMI love the shocker. BUT... here's the drawback. Sometimes there's a lot of maintenance before it is the perfect marker. Seriously. From air problems to FSDO (first shot drop off). But once you figure it out (HE Bolt) its a marker you won't ever want to be without. I've run across a lot of players using DM5s, Angels, etc. Trading markers with them during games has always resulted in a "I want a Shocker" attitude. From the sound, feel (no kickback), to the accuracy and speed. Its an all in one. I went from Smart Parts Impulse to a WGP Oracle then Karnivor and when I got a hold of a Shocker I haven't even needed to desire another marker.
I've had one for a year this month actually. It's gone down once on me due to a busted o-ring. Replaced it and it was good to go. Last month, after 11 months, the vision strip was broken. But that doesn't stop it because I turned vision off and played a whole day without vision on with no problems.
Not once have I chopped a ball as well. Shooting with a Revolution and max bps based on rebound settings, etc.
Great place to go: www.shockerowners.com/index.php YDNA is the master tech over there. All Shocker questions, tech questions, problems, etc. he can answer! Also, FSDO GUY is a great tech guy. He's our team tech and owns two shockers as well. -
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Re: Timmy
Mon, January 2, 2006 - 7:10 PMdon't take this as a bad thing, but everyone here seems to be all about smart parts. i've seen groups that have said the same thing about angels, timmies and cockers. it seems to me that the advantages and disadvantages stay the same just the name of the markers are moved around. it just depends what group you talk to. i think at some point reguardless of out come i'm just going to have to pick a maker that works for me. -
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Re: Timmy
Mon, January 2, 2006 - 8:30 PMYes. Its whatever marker works for you. You have to shoot em first though. Personally I like the autococker feel. Its cool after a while. But I LOVE a closed bolt that Smart Parts has. Seriously. I've shot all kinds from crappy Spiders to all the high end markers. I loved the Karnivor. LOVED IT! But then I went with the Shocker and I can't ever go back. Weight alone is one thing. Look, feel, sound, etc... is another.
All these high end markers are as accurate and as fast as you want. Its ultimately the player NOT the marker.
I've been blasted many times by Phantoms (pump guns) while I shot back with my Shocker. So it really doesn't matter the speed, the name of the gun or the accuracy. Its the player behind the marker.
I was hoping to get a Phantom for Christmas but haven't found a good used one at a decent price yet. But I'm definately going to be playing more pump this year!!! -
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Re: Timmy
Tue, January 3, 2006 - 2:08 PMyeah your gonna hear that from different groups.. we've just fell into the smartparts group.. theirs upsides and down sides.. i've shot just about anything you can think of .. working at a paintball store and all .. i like alot of different guns .. we have a guy on our team running a timmy.. real nice ..accurate as all hell.. its just your feel, and how you work w/ the gun.. good luck hopefully you'll find that perfect fit. -
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Re: Timmy
Tue, January 3, 2006 - 3:25 PMIf I were to get a marker OTHER than a shocker today, I'd get the EGO. -
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Re: Timmy
Tue, January 3, 2006 - 8:47 PMshot the new dye gun recently.. i could see myself with one -
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Re: Timmy
Wed, January 4, 2006 - 6:57 PMi have shot the DMC and the EGO and i liked both the EGO i one that i really like. the DMC is nice i didn't like the body style until i held and shot it i was really impressed. the ego was nice as well. -
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Re: Timmy
Wed, January 4, 2006 - 6:59 PMi have shot the DMC and the EGO and i liked both the EGO i one that i really like. the DMC is nice i didn't like the body style until i held and shot it i was really impressed. the ego was nice as well.
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i have shot the DMC and the EGO and i liked both. the EGO is one that i really liked. the DMC is nice, but i didn't like the body style until i held and shot it. i was really impressed with how quite and fast it was. the ego was nice as well. -
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Re: Timmy
Mon, January 9, 2006 - 7:23 AMNEW UPDATE: our team may be getting a sponsorship deal with proto.. woohooo met one of the reps this weekend and got to rock the new matrix.. if you liked the dm.. you'd love the matrix.. that s.o.b. rips sadlley enough .. . i out shot a shocker with it
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